Bet Less Win More – A Chat With Gary Boswell

There is an opportunity right now to get involved in a service that is almost guaranteed to make you monthly profits in 2020.

You have probably heard of it but maybe haven’t tried it.

The door is only open for a few weeks and after that no new members will be taken.

The service is Bet Less Win More from Gary Boswell.

We have interviewed Gary previously in issue 43 but given this big opportunity and the limited time available I wanted to take this opportunity to ask a few more questions about this incredible service.

Gary thanks for agreeing to answer these questions for our readers. I want to start by asking you to explain the methods you use and the general ethos that sits behind all your betting decisions?

Cheers Darren. I have been running the multi stranded BOZmail for fourteen years now and have used various methods in my time covering a variety of sports. I was a football and tennis tipster for the newspapers and Betfair.com before that.

Always a student of form with a heart beating on the turf.

The real breakthrough came five years ago following a big win with my shortlist system (which is very ratings based) when I thought it signalled my retirement but in actual fact it triggered instead a new urge to develop a daily horse racing nap system which is what I’ve been sharing with punters ever since. I call it Less Is More because it was formed quite simply out of my preference for small field races.

I am a staunch believer that every horse must be studied thoroughly to work out the winner – whether or not there is a bet in the race – and where the value might lie. My Dad had always preached the concept of a bet a day keeps the doctor away and that the rhythm and discipline of that is the healthy way to go. Less is More sticks to that.

By backing less I win more. That is a truism I can strongly vouch for and all tipsters I meet these days seem to agree with its ethos. Even the scattergun brigade who tip every horse running every day it sometimes seems to me! That is a temptation in enjoying

betting. To practice more rather than less. I do the opposite now as a tipster and have started to become known as steady eddie as a result. Haven’t always been this way. Part of the getting older and wiser I suppose.

Always learning.

Methods? Form study. Observation. Analysis and understanding of market.

The latter is the main one these days as the transparency of markets is at our fingertips 24/7.

No excuses for getting a crap price on your fancy any more. Your opportunity to operate as the bookmakers always have is all around you. Buckle up to the form study and

reacting to what you see. My method is simply that on Less is More. Of course I have a lifetime’s familiarity and back knowledge of racing which also helps. But mostly study the form and study the market. The winners are there.

I get to know horses and I paddock watch (both traits developed more intensely in these past five years since I started publishing Less Is More as the cornerstone of the

BOZmail) but all good tipsters do what I do really and maybe the thing that marks me out as different is my attitude to bank management. That would define my general

decision making ethos.

I approach it not unlike a banker investing in a new business. Determine guaranteed steady growth. Treat every loser or downturn as a hole to be repaired as quickly as

possible (without ever letting the hole or losing streak grow) and most importantly,

believe in your ability and never panic if it temporarily deserts you (as it will).

I suppose another way of looking at my approach would be to say that I don’t take risks, which seems a ridiculous thing to say about a betting system. But that’s what I do. I don’t take risks. I know I can pick winners to steady percentages (66% SR with lays in the past 5 years – 25% SR backing winners over same period. That’s every day in past five years. Over 1800 days now) and that whilst I shake no foundations of vast wealth, I steadily accrue.

I used the majority of my big win as my stake (from 2013 onwards) and been living that way ever since. I ain’t a millionaire (by a long way) but I get by.

And I still like writing about it on a daily basis as you can probably tell from the length of that answer to a simple question!   

I know some of your current members consider your service to be an income

replacer. That sounds like a big call for any service! Could you give some real world examples of the level of profit your members are making?

I don’t find it odd that many view it same way as I do and have been round long enough to know that any service purporting to be a successful long term tipping service really has to have that in its possibilities if it’s where people want to go. It’s not for everybody because of course no matter how confident I come across now after a few years at it; it is always the sort of game that can defy past scores.

I haven’t got immune to that yet but I work bloody hard these days at the first sign of trouble and am always reviewing and never afraid to change things when I see

something better. That’s the great thing of narrowing down to one bet a day all the time. You get to throw out a lot of dead wood all the time.

Of course I have modest requirements from the income earning stakes.

I used to be a full time poet so am used to living on fresh air and when my Audi packed in this year after a solid ten year stint in which I also drove part time for a living prior to 2013 (often ferrying stable lads and lasses around which is a job I still miss) the scrap man who towed the dead Audi away pointed me to a car that runs on fresh air! I’ve driven it ever since and so now I can live on even less!

The maths is this.

I recommend starting Less Is More with a 20 point bank which at £100 per point means a 2k starting fund.

That grows between 200 & 250% per annum based on last five years’ scores (2019 has been one of the lowest scorers but only by just under 10% and there are reasons for that which I’ll come back to later) and thus your £2k bank started in December 2019 is now around £6 – 6.5k providing you’ve kept the discipline and played every day and worked hard at getting best prices that you can. And not spent any of the winnings!

That 6k as a bank for year two can expect to grow to a minimum £18k by end of year two if you have the requisite belief and discipline and work-time to get the bigger bets on. So in two years you clear £16k so I don’t expect anyone to necessarily give up the day job immediately based on that and you are basically looking at using year one to fund a stab at going full time in year 2 if you have the personality and the temperament for it.

The key being that I also work very hard to not to go into bank if at all possible

(sometimes I need the right race days to come along at the start of a cycle but I practised at that after first two years and have gotten better now so that in 2019 we didn’t dip into bank at all after day one. That’s a target I’ll set every year now).

There have been a few doing that through 2019 for whom 2020 promises to be a new start in life and I’ll be working flat out to make sure their success is upheld. I did say I could live on a pittance and I do. 6k per year sees me through these days. I am too busy watching racing to ever go anywhere or spend anything! That won’t be everybody’s cup of tea I don’t suppose.

Think about it. Several people do it differing ways. Depends on your personality and your ability to manage stress levels perhaps. And your patience and your discipline and your ability to handle downturns and not panic. Ideally I see it as you following the BOZmail for a while – two years or three at the most and then branching out on your own with what you’ve learned. There are several in that boat from my 14 years in the game so far. And it’s cumulative. BetLessWinMore already brings the BOZmail too many more than have received it before. That can’t really go on for ever.

We may have already reached our ceiling. 2020 will perhaps tell us if that is so.

There is a big focus on staking and risk versus reward with your bets; could you tell us a bit about how you maintain this balance?

I see it as common sense really. Same as why gambling per se is not a good way to guarantee a long term income. Fiscal prudence is paramount.

All the things they taught me as a teenager working for the NatWest (and which I

ignored as a full time poet!) and what Dickens describes brilliantly in David Copperfield with his Mr Macawber speech (a character based on his feckless gambling Dad –just think, if John Dickens had been my Dad – the books I might have written!!).

Annual income twenty shillings, annual expenditure nineteen shillings and sixpence. Result happiness. Annual expenditure twenty shillings and sixpence. Result misery.

Don’t risk your hard earned unless you have done the work beforehand.

Both my Mom and Dad drilled that into me and led by example. Fair to say I ignored them for a good fifteen years or so between the ages of 23 and 40. A man has to sow his oats! (My excuse) My years in the bank were before then however and I never forgot what I learned there. I spent some time training on stock exchange trading. Twenty odd years before the invention of Betfair. What comes around goes around.

Risk v reward is everything. Risk v potential loss even more so. Especially on days after a loser. You must steady the ship. Redouble the efforts. Study till your eyes hurt. Make sure your pick is as good as you can get it (that’s me here) and the price you take

likewise (that’s your job).

Not many services manage to make it through the year without a losing month; I know this is a big focus for you. Could you tell us a bit about how you manage your account to achieve this?

I think that’s the same as the above. Can’t think of a better answer anyway. I don’t like losing.

I’m a lifelong competitive chess player and maybe that taught me to do all in my

powers to avoid the bum feeling that a loser brings with it. I’m determined. It means I take less and less risks as the month goes on to ensure no creep into the red. I practice profit protection whenever the day’s fancy isn’t mega strong and am totally focussed on the importance of breaking even (short term) so that every good winner I pick doesn’t have to pay for any losers. Pure profit. The realisation of that ethos is perhaps my

biggest cornerstone born out of many years of finding good winners quite hard to find (value ones I mean). I still do.

60% of the time – perhaps as much as 80% of it with Less Is More – is grinding out the small profit lays and I’ve gotten more and more content with that as I’ve gone on.

In November 2019 just finished, I had a nine day and a seven day unbroken winning lay streak (punctured by three losing days in the middle and three at the end) and was

heading for just a meagre 2 point profit month until I landed only the second actual backed winner of the month at 22/1 (second biggest priced winner of the year – The

Jugopolist at 50/1 in March being the biggest) to make it a 4.5 point profit month by the end.

Only fifth most profitable month of the year but the most classic example of LIM in its essence.

Lots of daily grinding consistency (when it’s going well) breaking even or close to (when it’s not) and then a proper winner (which was the first double figure price winner since August) to boost the gradual annual growth figure nicely. That annual monthly growth figure always goes forward. Sometimes not by much. I’m fixated on that as an ethos and my bank management skills and tipping ability has seemingly developed to allow me to practice it. The rest is patience, temperament and refusal to panic. All of them inbred. 

This year you are only taking members for the full year and won’t be taking any members after January 31st, could you explain the reasoning behind this and how it will benefit those that do join?

We come to the reason 2019 was around 10% less growth figure than previous years which have always been annual subscriber only years. I naturally set the BOZmail up for that. I always knew it wasn’t for the get rich quick brigade or the lazy arses either.

There is work involved in making LIM pay. Commitment required too. I spoke today to a new member bemoaning missing this month’s already posted good winner and thus struggling under a higher number of lay loser week than is normal.

Those committed among us are still ok and ahead (just) as so far this month, the good winner has paid for a few losers. Only a week in. That can always happen.

I don’t set the races each day and can only work with what is there. Some spells are less rewarding than others. You fail in commitment and already you are playing catch up. Chasing losses even. Everyone knows that isn’t what you want. I don’t do chasing

losses. You can’t. With a spurt of losers – even two days – which is all I’ve had here, I start pulling in the coat tails. So without the good winner, I’d be looking at perhaps a week or ten days to recover. That has hardly happened at all this year and this time also, the winner came first so it’s more a case now of working madly to ensure I don’t slip into red for the month. That will happen if tomorrow’s loses. Then I shift to mega

cautious feel my way out mode. Reducing risk to as near to zero as I can get it.

LIM can be that attritional at times. September almost always is. And January. Plus February and May this year. All around break even months. Next year I try without

January and September just to give myself a break. I successfully tried that in 2017. Spent the time trying to work out why some months were tougher. Got some answers but still don’t understand January. Think it may even be hormonal in me.

Post Xmas (best racing time of the year for me) and my birthday month. The bummer of annual realisation youth has long gone! No idea whether I actually believe that.

Time to ask my shrink I would think! Anyway, in 2020, January gets a bit of a wide berth (will just be finishing the end of the monthly sub service for a few of the early days of January).

Which brings me back to why annual subs next year and a closed shop approach.

Mainly because I began to notice as I went on in 2019 that I was being even more cautious than normal in my bank management staking advices – conscious each month that there were new players coming in all the time without the cushion we long termers had built up to reinvest.

The awareness was always a background one but a negative one and I found myself

going cautious even on my most bullish days not wanting the newcomers to go into the red if it went wrong (which of course it always can). Perhaps it shouldn’t have made a difference and to begin with I didn’t notice it but that was because Jan and Feb weren’t great anyway so caution had been required for all. In April we had the Jugopolist

moolah to reinvest but it started to dawn that not everyone had that so I started to

metaphorically bank what I would normally at least 5% to 10% intend to reinvest.

This year we are all working from same sort of bank score (so long as no-one misses a day! Not allowed!!) So the bullish days will be staked up 10% on average as we go through the latter parts of the year. 20% up by December if it’s all gone to plan.

The closed shop is more pragmatic. We don’t always influence the markets that much with the numbers we are at (Glance Back in November drifted from early tissue of 9/1 to ISP of 16/1 and over 20s on BSP and exchanges – largely because of a well touted fav that we laid running a stinker at odds on) whereas this month’s good winner was clobbered by LIM and the BOZmail. 10/1 down to 9/4. Not just us of course. Stable were also on. And nothing else mega strong in the market in a wide open race. That is going to happen. The more so the bigger we get. Hence the ceiling comment earlier.

Incumbent on all who sign up to show discretion for the benefit of themselves and all the members as we go on. Stakes will be increasing this year. We are likely to shake a few more shoes and will need to work harder than ever to get our price. Early bird that best catches the worm!

Finally we know that the service is very profitable, we also know that you teach your followers advanced strategies that further boost the profits and reduce the risks, could you talk a bit about this advanced strategies?

Next year’s big focus will be on paddock watching. In the flesh but also how you can do its basics on the TV. All big stake bets should undergo a paddock watch I advise. You can learn so much there that the formbook cannot reveal. You become a trader more than a gambler with it but that is true of a lot of my ethos these days and even basic LIM has basic trading principles inherent. You are playing both ends of the market.

Back and Lay. And some do all LIM now as trades on all selections I know. That kind of caution as stakes increase is only prudent in my eyes. Gamblers may disagree. LIM can be played by both with success. Who wins most in the long term? You tell me.

Gamblers probably but don’t quote me on that. I am both these days and my natural caution and love of a punt tends to dictate which on any given day. I don’t teach trading other than by example. I’ll always talk it with those interested. But as with Macawber quote, principle is simple. Buy Low. Sell High.

How you do that in practice comes in a myriad of methods. Devise the one to suit youself from the starting blocks I provide. That’s it these days. One of my followers this year backed Noble Glance as the 40/1 outsider in a 3 horse Fontwell LIM race as part of his developing trading practice. I hadn’t mentioned the horse. Got the favourite beat and saw my second fav selection get chinned on the line by the 40/1 shot. Needless to say his points profit for the year outscores mine! By quite a lot!

That’s how it works. I’m the tipster; I identify the race to play in. Many a gambler out there better than I am at making it pay handsomely!

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